X not recognizing the sysmouse

[Database Administrator]

This is one I've never seen before . . .

Everything configured nicerly, and the ever-so-useful mouse in the
console works just fine. X configures nicely, and works, ut the mouse
doesn't.

The only error in .xsession-errors is for a missing application.

in xorg.conf, section ServerLayout has

InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"'

Section InputDevice has

Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4" "5"

(I manually changed the 3buttons setting)

rc.conf enables moused, but moused was running before I uncommented
that line. Could it starting from somewhere else (where???) be
causing this problem?

I have managed to type this in in firefox in X.

thanks

hawk

[Database Administrator]

dochawk wrote:
>
> rc.conf enables moused, but moused was running before I uncommented
> that line. Could it starting from somewhere else (where???) be
> causing this problem?

X or hal or sysmouse or something runs moused automatically if it
doesn't find it already running. The behavior is different than
enabling moused in /etc/rc.conf.

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.c...27.freebsd-x11
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.c...27.freebsd-x11

It's on my list of things that I may eventually sometime if time permits
get back to thinking about getting ready to see if investigating it
should be placed on the list of things I may get around to doing
sometime.

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[Database Administrator]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
dochawk wrote:

> This is one I've never seen before . . .
>
> Everything configured nicerly, and the ever-so-useful mouse in the
> console works just fine. X configures nicely, and works, ut the mouse
> doesn't.

What does the mouse cursor do in X ? Does it sit still in the
middle or shoot off to the left hand side ?

> The only error in .xsession-errors is for a missing application.
>
> in xorg.conf, section ServerLayout has
>
> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"'
>
> Section InputDevice has
>
> Identifier "Mouse0"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "auto"
> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"

Does /dev/sysmouse exist ?

> rc.conf enables moused, but moused was running before I uncommented
> that line. Could it starting from somewhere else (where???) be
> causing this problem?

That's odd.

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[Database Administrator]

Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
> dochawk wrote:
> > Everything configured nicerly, and the ever-so-useful mouse in the
> > console works just fine. X configures nicely, and works, ut the mouse
> > doesn't.
>
> What does the mouse cursor do in X ? Does it sit still in the
> middle or shoot off to the left hand side ?

It sits in the middle. Today it's an arrow, but I think it was an X
yesterday.

> Does /dev/sysmouse exist ?

Yes. Yesterday, there was a functional mouse on the consoles; today
there is not.

However, /etc/rc.d/moused reports a running process. The behavior
does not change after restartin the daemon.

> > rc.conf enables moused, but moused was running before I uncommented
> > that line. Could it starting from somewhere else (where???) be
> > causing this problem?
>
> That's odd.

Annoying, too

I am running hal for Sam's atheros patch to use my wifi. I'm also
using the nvidia x11 driver.

hawk

[Database Administrator]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
dochawk wrote:

> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > dochawk wrote:
> > > Everything configured nicerly, and the ever-so-useful mouse in the
> > > console works just fine. X configures nicely, and works, ut the mouse
> > > doesn't.
> >
> > What does the mouse cursor do in X ? Does it sit still in the
> > middle or shoot off to the left hand side ?
>
> It sits in the middle. Today it's an arrow, but I think it was an X
> yesterday.

OK that lets out one common bug.

> > Does /dev/sysmouse exist ?
>
> Yes. Yesterday, there was a functional mouse on the consoles; today
> there is not.
>
> However, /etc/rc.d/moused reports a running process. The behavior
> does not change after restartin the daemon.

Try killing moused (make sure it dies) and then running it with -d
and -f arguments added. With a bit of luck there will be informative
messages.

> hawk

Been missing you in afc BTW, 'twas a better place with you in it.

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[Database Administrator]

Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
> dochawk wrote:
> > > Does /dev/sysmouse exist ?
> >
> > Yes. Yesterday, there was a functional mouse on the consoles; today
> > there is not.
> >
> > However, /etc/rc.d/moused reports a running process. The behavior
> > does not change after restartin the daemon.
>
> Try killing moused (make sure it dies) and then running it with -d
> and -f arguments added. With a bit of luck there will be informative
> messages.

curiouser and curioser.

IT tells me

moused: proto params f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff
moused: port : /dev/psm0 interface: ps/2 type: sysmous model:
IntelliMouse

It gives me plenty of activity when I move the mouse.

Oh, and I think I said the pointer was an X previously; now it's an
arrow in the middle of the screFen.


> Been missing you in afc BTW, 'twas a better place with you in it.

I'm trying to find my way back, but it seems that rather than a
glitch, my newsserver was dropped without notice. I'll be back once I
get an nntp server--reading it with google is just to painful.

[Database Administrator]

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
dochawk wrote:

> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:10:09 -0700 (PDT)

> > Try killing moused (make sure it dies) and then running it with
> > -d and -f arguments added. With a bit of luck there will be informative
> > messages.
>
> curiouser and curioser.
>
> IT tells me
>
> moused: proto params f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff
> moused: port : /dev/psm0 interface: ps/2 type: sysmous model:
> IntelliMouse
>
> It gives me plenty of activity when I move the mouse.

Sounds promising - does X work under these conditions ? If so look
in /etc/rc.conf and see if it's getting launched with iffy parameters.

> Oh, and I think I said the pointer was an X previously; now it's an
> arrow in the middle of the screFen.
>
>
> > Been missing you in afc BTW, 'twas a better place with you in
> > it.
>
> I'm trying to find my way back, but it seems that rather than a
> glitch, my newsserver was dropped without notice. I'll be back once I
> get an nntp server--reading it with google is just to painful.

Try motzarella.org - it's free with effective splorge and spam
filters - it works for me.

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[Database Administrator]

On Oct 7, 5:43 am, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
>
[moused -d -f]

> > IT tells me
>
> > moused: proto params f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff
> > moused: port : /dev/psm0 interface: ps/2 type: sysmous model:
> > IntelliMouse
>
> > It gives me plenty of activity when I move the mouse.
>
> Sounds promising - does X work under these conditions ? If so look
> in /etc/rc.conf and see if it's getting launched with iffy parameters.

X works entirely save for the mouse; I've been using it with firefox
to post these (until this message,
sent from firefox on the darkside)

I got irritated enough to rip it all out; there were a couple of
other odd quirks, like vipw not working
even after a couple of updates an buildworlds.

I very cleverly deleted the extra servers in xorg configurattion--
including vga. I've now learned
about rmconfig, but not before wiping the freshly built ports


> > > Been missing you in afc BTW, 'twas a better place with you in
> > > it.
>
> > I'm trying to find my way back, but it seems that rather than a
> > glitch, my newsserver was dropped without notice. I'll be back once I
> > get an nntp server--reading it with google is just to painful.
>
> Try motzarella.org - it's free with effective splorge and spam
> filters - it works for me.

I have it working for their public access groups, but once more, the
battle with trn for authentication on an external server is
engaged . . . I have my old file from before the earthlink server was
yanked.

What do I use for the user name on that? the bare username for
motzarella? username@motzarella.org? the email address I created
with them?

[Database Administrator]

On Oct 12, 4:03*pm, dochawk wrote:
> On Oct 7, 5:43 am, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:> On Sat,4 Oct200818:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
>
> *[moused -d -f]
>
> > > IT tells me
>
> > > moused: proto params f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff
> > > moused: port : /dev/psm0 interface: ps/2 *type: sysmous model:
> > > IntelliMouse
>
> > > It gives me plenty of activity when I move the mouse.
>
> > * * * * Sounds promising - doesXwork under these conditions ? If so look
> > in /etc/rc.conf and see if it's getting launched with iffy parameters.
>
> Xworks entirely save for the mouse; I've been using it with firefox
> to post these (until this message,
> sent from firefox on the darkside)
>
> I got irritated enough to rip it all *out; there were a couple of
> other odd quirks, like vipw not working
> even after a couple of updates an buildworlds.
>
> I very cleverly deleted the extra servers in xorg configurattion--
> including vga. * I've now learned
> about rmconfig, but not before wiping the freshly built ports
>

Ah-hah! i
This time, I got X working before adding the nvidia drivers or
swapping ath for a newer version, and I now have mouse, nvidia, and
wireless. Still a couple of bugs on the wireless, but I should even
have it running encrypted soon.

Now to continue the battle with trn & motzarella.org . . .

hawk

[Database Administrator]

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:08:11 -0700 (PDT)
dochawk wrote:

> Now to continue the battle with trn & motzarella.org . . .

Try putting leafnode in the middle.

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